PMC Elite Dangerous From Scratch Trading

Overview

From Scratch means that you begin from zero, with nothing than stock default game starter equipment (or even less if possible, depending on the game). Also with elite I wanted to trade just by using sidewinder and 1000 credits (cr). This time it was done in open play, in the mercy of all player killers etc.

In the beginning I used EDDB trading features but as all experienced traders know these are just nice helpers but not a real trading tool, it was only later when I setup the new fork of TradeDangerous and started to really make some serious credits.

This was made with my second CMDR account "Snake Man PMC", this is just for fun, like what happens... happens, I don't get mad if some player killer comes and shoots my ship to pieces, I just want to try trading out from the beginning and enjoy it one step (or hop heh) at the time. For reference my real CMDR account has a bit more experience.

CMDR's Log

2018-11-13T14:34:57Z cleared save for CMDR "Snake Man PMC" account ;)

2018-11-13T16:17:02Z realized I can sell pulse lasers and equip more cargo racks heh, took a few trade runs to remember that as havent played since march heh :)

2018-11-13T16:51:13Z was promoted to trade rank mostly penniless.

2018-11-13T18:54:37Z traded several runs using eddb but as I have know all along it is not a real trading tool. Then I installed tradedangerous this new version by the new guys and WHOAH! my first run got me like 32,000cr in profit, oh my I am back in business! :-)

Man do I love TradeDangerous! :)

2018-11-13T20:29:43Z broke 100,000cr in cash, whee.

2018-11-13T20:37:36Z was promoted to trade rank peddler.

2018-11-13T21:28:14Z purchased adder. Name: PMC Trader 1, ID: PMC002. added some cargo racks and downgraded shields to 2E. budget now 64,183cr. coriolis.io

2018-11-13T22:15:40Z budget now 270,314cr.

2018-11-13T22:39:08Z budget now 367,573cr.

2018-11-13T23:25:25Z budget now 469,457cr.

2018-11-13T23:46:49Z purchased cobra mk3. Name: PMC Trader 2, ID: PMC003. budget now 155,438cr. coriolis.io

On my first trade run with cobra mk3 I made 212,784cr profit on the first hop, pretty nice.

2018-11-14T00:27:44Z was promoted to trade rank dealer.

2018-11-14T02:01:40Z budget now 886,427cr. was dead tired so decided to call it a night, more trading tomorrow.

2018-11-14T10:23:52Z back in elite cobra mk3 cockpit, lets trade!

2018-11-14T10:34:14Z interdiction, AI asp wanted 13t of cargo, I gave him high wake jump.

2018-11-14T11:01:04Z broke 1 million in my budget, its now 1.193m cr :)

2018-11-14T11:52:25Z budget now 1.771m cr. time to go buy a new trading ship, even though I hate to let cobra mk3 go :)

2018-11-14T12:12:00Z purchased lakon type-6, traded in cobra mk3 with 411,774cr value. Name: PMC Trader 3, ID: PMC004. coriolis.io

2018-11-14T12:42:00Z departed with my brand new shiny lakon type-6, on the docking corridor some dolphin piece of crap ran in front of me, luckily I was not speeding as in this open play test save I strictly keep under 100m/s to avoid fines and mostly those suicide sidewinders I've read about.

2018-11-14T13:24:45Z sold 104 of basic medicines for 510,328cr heh nice haul.

2018-11-14T14:55:10Z was promoted to trade rank merchant. budget now 2.484m cr.

2018-11-14T15:22:21Z after the painful sidewinder fooling around with single credits, this type-6 trading is pretty cool. budget now 2.646m cr.

2018-11-14T15:59:13Z interdiction by AI ship, he remanded 9t of cargo. on the next station my budget broke 3.024m cr.

2018-11-14T16:26:30Z arrived at LTT 9387 system to purchase 4a FSD, budget now 1.927m cr. coriolis.io

2018-11-14T17:24:29Z interdiction by AI sidewinder, demanded 5.5k cr worth of cargo, high waked to my next system, all good.

Still wondering where all the player CMDR's are, I'm constantly monitoring the local traffic and very very rarely I see a player. Todays play session so far I've greeted two commanders, both which ignored me. Didn't count how many commanders I saw today but it was mere "a few", so not sure whats going on here, am I in some remote crappy system(s) which nobody cares for or? Is every CMDR trying out v3.3 beta? No idea.

That much is for certain that open play (in the area I'm at) is perfectly fine for trading as there are no players to bother me and the few I've seen have ignored me.

2018-11-14T18:35:51Z budget now 3.193m cr.

2018-11-14T20:23:45Z budget now 4.348m cr.

2018-11-14T21:32:56Z budget now 5.294m cr.

2018-11-14T22:14:14Z was at Brib system, attempted to dock with the damaged station called dominique holdings, it was my first time to see damaged station. well I took a damage and barely escaped with my life, then docked with the rescue ship nearby.

Had a nice chat with CMDR Geomol who offered to take me in multicrew to go some thargoid hunting, but had to kindly decline as I was on mission on my own, to trade like a mad man. After he departed I saw another CMDR.

This encounter shows that yes there are CMDR's in the open, I just had a bad luck by operating in the remote areas where other CMDR's didn't happen to visit at the same time.

2018-11-14T22:32:10Z arrived at Bactondinks system, budget now 6.230m cr.

2018-11-14T23:03:31Z in Azrael system at Rafferty's Mobius station saw a CMDR Corsado with a lakon type-9. I tried to chat with him but no reply, I noticed he was novice rank and flew like a one. When he departed... he boosted into the mail slot, hit it (of course) and BOOM! lakon type-9 exploded in a fireball to many small pieces.

Aww man that was terrible to see.

Oh and budget now 7.178m cr. But still so far away from my next ship purchase budget... lets keep on trading.

I don't know why but I feel like my progress been slow today, like I have spent way too much time in the stations using TradeDangerous trying to find profitable routes. To be clear TD is the best trading tool its just ME who wanted more and More to squeeze out every credit out of a trade route loops, that took much time as I seemed never to be satisfied with a route, heh.

2018-11-14T23:27:13Z arrived at Oscabi system after interdicted in binar so had to high wake out of there, also imperial slaves are illicit cargo hehe.

2018-11-15T00:26:36Z arrived at Ingguromal system and on my way here AI ship was about to interdict me as he sent me threats in the radio comms, but I managed to jump into next system before he started interdiction.

2018-11-15T00:38:45Z at HIP 106213 system budget now 8.186m cr.

2018-11-15T00:55:19Z at Rauraci system budget now 9.023m cr.

2018-11-15T01:39:55Z arrived at Barnard's Star system and was super tired so had to call it a night. Not a bad day about 15hrs of trading :)

2018-11-15T11:17:30Z started elite up, back to trading.

Took me a while to get started (actually two damn hours by looking at it) as I was re-writing bunch of tradedangerous page heh.

2018-11-15T13:12:19Z arrived at Caspatsuria system in Binney Dock station.

2018-11-15T13:23:33Z arrived at CD-65 76 system in Alex's Rest station, completed trade route and broke 10 million credit barrier! Whohoo ;)

Budget now 10.260m cr. Still so far before I can upgrade my ship, but with good trade routes and steady pace... we'll get there, no worries.

Oh btw when I logged into elite and was sitting in a station writing that tradedangerous page, a CMDR send me a greeting which I did not see until much later. That bummed me out as I don't know how to send message to a CMDR from the cockpit comms menu, the history tab shows contacts but don't include chat/msg option and from the chat console I don't know how to send a message after local CMDR contact has disappeared. I hate when I send message to someone and they don't reply back, so I really do not want to be that guy who ignores everyone.

2018-11-15T13:40:39Z interdiction attempt by AI ship, managed to jump.

2018-11-15T13:56:58Z arrived at CD-65 76 system, Alex's Rest station and got budget 11.066m cr.

2018-11-15T15:04:14Z arrived at Paul-Friedrichs Star system budget now 12.042m cr.

2018-11-15T16:10:36Z at Banapityas system in Marshburn Dock station saw three other CMDR's, tried to local chat, no reply.

2018-11-15T16:33:31Z at marshburn dock again three CMDR's beside me, nobody replied when I asked if anyone is interested in trade wing.

2018-11-15T16:50:13Z got interdicted by wanted imperial courier AI ship, he demanded pretty little of cargo but I wouldnt give even the little. Nice high wake out of there and trading continues.

Been thinking a lot about my march 2018 experiences on trading which were with my real CMDR account "Snake Man" which is triple elite ranked, using shieldless lakon type-9. Thinking that maybe there is some lame game mechanic that harmless newbie sidewinder pilots will not get interdicted by AI almost never where pro trader with combat rank of elite in huge trading ship does get, so much so that its killing all the fun in trading. I don't know, just thinking various possibilities because the trading experience was so much different back in march.

This got me thinking that... I want to test this out and bring my real CMDR account back to jameson memorial who is 3300ly out there exploring, grab my good old lakon type-9 and go trading. If I would immediately got "griefed" by AI interdictions then it would be clear that there are double standard regarding interdictions between different combat or trading ranks, which makes no sense at all.

I took a mission to bring basic medicines to marshburn dock station where I was going anyways and to bring basic medicines. Now this is a little bit fishy thing as whole purpose of this CMDR save clear is to trade traditionally, not do bounty hunting, not accept the 10k cr charity etc, so by doing missions... I'm not... well exactly trading. I mean mission to buy and bring goods into another station... that is trading, heh, cooky? :)

2018-11-15T17:37:16Z at marshburn dock station I delivered the 66t of basic medicines for this mission, I chose reward of 501,873cr. Hey everything counts now to purchase that next trading ship and doing delivery missions is a one form of trading hehe.

2018-11-15T17:46:55Z got interdicted by AI ship, demanded like 22k cr worth of cargo before I high waked outta there.

2018-11-15T18:30:57Z had a chat with CMDR Dargon212 about trading, he was flying type-7. he sent a friend request and I accepted.

2018-11-15T18:50:38Z was on mission to bring some basic medicines, got interdicted and cops showed up and helped. I was just charging my FSD on high wake jump out when the cops showed so I stayed and enjoyed them killing that bastard pirate :)

Delivered 9t of basic medicines to potter hub, chose reward of 101,899cr. Almost not worth my time to detour from my usual route, but oh well.

2018-11-15T19:03:40Z budget now 18.232m cr. really close now for a ship upgrade.

2018-11-15T19:31:35Z budget now 19.009m cr.

2018-11-15T19:44:30Z was interdicted again in dountidi system, decided to once see the piracy game mechanic so I stopped and listened the pirates demands, it was mere 3t of cargo so I jettisoned 3x silver. He already got off few shots at me, no damage as had shields on, but this time no cops showed up even though I was waiting to see if they arrive while this guy is picking up the cargo. The cargo scooping was super fast, I barely got my ship turned around and he had already scooped the 3 cannisters, wow is he fast or what.

2018-11-15T20:06:52Z arrived at Dountidi system and budget now 19.749m cr.

And I think the outbreak or something finished because suddenly the basic medicines did not get much profit at all and for the return hop I bring in palladium so now suddenly there was 633t available instead of the usual 4t.

2018-11-15T20:35:53Z alright I have enough credits and because I'd also have to move to better market areas, I'm off to upgrade the ship now :)

2018-11-15T20:58:22Z purchased lakon type-7, traded in the old type-6. Name: PMC Trader 4, ID: PMC005. budget now 2.186m cr. coriolis.io

2018-11-15T21:35:39Z arrived at Sosong system in Soddy Gateway station, sold my first haul in type-7 for 279,000cr.

2018-11-15T22:08:33Z arrived at Chih Zhua system, sold my cargo and had about 3 million credits. Decided to end playing here, at least for now.

The goal was to start from scratch and trade only until I get to lakon type-9, well this type-7 was much more short term goal for a while and I started to think about what I said earlier to try out trading with my real account. So that is what I'm going to do now, switch elite to my real account, fly PMC Explorer back to populated space and break out PMC Trader, the good old lakon type-9 workhorse ;)

Summary

So I went from starter sidewinder and 1000cr into Lakon Type-7 with about 3 million credits in 2 days and 8 hours (didn't really count or push how many hours I slept). In short "from sidewinder to type-7 in 2.5 days" I guess.